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Tango-Endo

Postby chuchro on Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:47 pm

Any more informations about this system?
What are the sizes and tapers of instruments?

Is it a dedicated handpiece or a normal handpiece can be used (of course with 30* reciprotation)?

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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby Carriemoncrieffe on Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:19 am

Hi Churcho,
For all information about Tango-Endo including sizing information visit www.edsdental.com/tangoendo
Yes, it is a dedicated handpiece. The Tango-Endo Latch Type Reciprocating Headpiece must be used.
Very Best,
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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby stevebenke on Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:23 am

Hi Barry,

I looked at the EDS website and this new Tango innovation looks awesome. So let's hear about it!

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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby chuchro on Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:30 pm

Carriemoncrieffe wrote:Hi Churcho,
For all information about Tango-Endo including sizing information visit http://www.edsdental.com/tangoendo
Yes, it is a dedicated handpiece. The Tango-Endo Latch Type Reciprocating Headpiece must be used.
Very Best,
Carrie


Is it available in Europe? If yes which distributor has it?
Maybe some more videos about it? few words from dr Barry? :)
What is cross-section shape of this files?
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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby BarryMusikant on Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:05 am

stevebenke wrote:Hi Barry,

I looked at the EDS website and this new Tango innovation looks awesome. So let's hear about it!

Sincerely,
Steve


Steve,

The product is being introduced at the Chicago mid-winter meeting. It is essentially two instruments (It takes two to Tango). They consist of a 30/02 stainless steel relieved reamer design and a 30/04 relieved NiTi. They have an s-shape cross section and are used in a 30º latch-type handpiece. They are to be used only in the reciprocating handpiece. If they were used manually and rotated beyond 30º, something that is possible if done manually they would be subject to separation. Used in the reciprocating handpiece, this is highly unlikely. Why the addition? They shave dentin away more efficiently than traditional stainless steel reamers. They are only used after the glide path has been established to a 20, something accomplished quite easily in most cases using the SafeSiders in the 30º reciprocating handpiece. The goal is to remove tissue in the thin, but sider bucco-lingual plane, an area that has been documented to be poorly achieved with rotary NiTi. Because we do not exceed an 04 taper we preserve tooth structure in the mesio-distal plane. Also because the arc of motion is confined to 30º we take away the action that has also been documented to produce dentinal defects.

If you have other questions please don't hesitate to ask.

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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby BarryMusikant on Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:08 am

chuchro wrote:
Carriemoncrieffe wrote:Hi Churcho,
For all information about Tango-Endo including sizing information visit http://www.edsdental.com/tangoendo
Yes, it is a dedicated handpiece. The Tango-Endo Latch Type Reciprocating Headpiece must be used.
Very Best,
Carrie


Is it available in Europe? If yes which distributor has it?
Maybe some more videos about it? few words from dr Barry? :)
What is cross-section shape of this files?


Przemyslaw,

I'll have Carrie answer the questions about availablity in Europe. I've tried them and there is no question that they are more efficient at removing dentin in the bucco-lingual plane. As already stated their use is confined to a 30º reciprocating handpiece and are introduced after the glide path is shaped to a 30, something I do rapidly, accurately and safely using the SafeSiders. I'll see if over the next week or two I can make a short video that we can put up.

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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby Dr.Mathew Thomas on Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:07 pm

Hello Dr.Barry,
Well happy that EDS is changing to the situation.
Well this latch type hand piece can be connected to any micro- motor, or you have a specific motor to it like X-Smart, or wave one, and hope so the reciprocation is in the hand- piece head, and has similar torque only as EDS old handpiece and nor more torque.
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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby BarryMusikant on Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:45 am

Dr.Mathew Thomas wrote:Hello Dr.Barry,
Well happy that EDS is changing to the situation.
Well this latch type hand piece can be connected to any micro- motor, or you have a specific motor to it like X-Smart, or wave one, and hope so the reciprocation is in the hand- piece head, and has similar torque only as EDS old handpiece and nor more torque.
Thankingyou
Dr.Mathew



Dr. Mathew,

It can be connected to any motor with an e-attachment just like the EndoExpress handpiece. Good to hear from you and I hope all is well with you.

Warm regards, Barry
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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby Dr.Mathew Thomas on Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:55 pm

Hello Dr.Barry,
Well thank you for the information, well i am fine and extremely happy with my EDS present hand piece  and EDS reamers which i have been using for four years  now.
Thanking you
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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby samjitsu on Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:11 pm

Hi, Barry,

What would be the difference between the Tango-Endo system vs. using a 30/02 Safesider and a 30/04 Safesider in an M4 reciprocating handpiece or EndoExpress reciprocating handpiece?

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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby BarryMusikant on Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:11 pm

samjitsu wrote:Hi, Barry,

What would be the difference between the Tango-Endo system vs. using a 30/02 Safesider and a 30/04 Safesider in an M4 reciprocating handpiece or EndoExpress reciprocating handpiece?

Sam


Sam,

This is how the Tango system came about. The 30/02 and 30/04 SafeSiders used in the 30º reciprocating handpiece is unique in that the system introduced the ability to work canals narrow in the mesio-distal plane, but broader in the bucco-lingual safely without concern for separation. In that regard, it is entirely different from the limitations imposed by a rotating system be it continuous or interrupted. The new Tango instruments simply function more efficiently than the SafeSiders without incurring any concerns for instrument breakage. So, the new instruments function like the original SafeSiders, but more efficiently in retaining the original canal anatomy in larger form. Using these instruments further reduces the need for the use of a peeso (Pleezer) or gates glidden that tend to remove more tooth structure coronally.

For those who are not familiar with the SafeSiders, it represents an innovation that the SafeSiders introduced and has now been enhanced.

It's one of those innovations that one may like to try and judge for themselves just how much they reduce the procedural time required to shape the canals to a 30/04 preparation that is limited in its mesio-distal removal of dentin while extending the full length of the canal in the bucco-lingual plane.

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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby samjitsu on Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:49 pm

Barry,

Are the Tango-Endo 30/02 and 30/04 latch files available in a hand instrument design so we can use them in the M4 or Endo-Express handpiece that we already have?

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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby BarryMusikant on Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:53 am

samjitsu wrote:Barry,

Are the Tango-Endo 30/02 and 30/04 latch files available in a hand instrument design so we can use them in the M4 or Endo-Express handpiece that we already have?

Sam


Sam,

They are not for safety reasons. These instruments are machined metal as opposed to twisted. As a result, if they are rotated too much, as can be done manually, they would have a greater tendency to separate. Not a great chance, but an increased chance. By limiting their use to the reciprocating handpiece because they are latched, they will only be used in a 30º reciprocating handpiece that prevents the chance of separation that might come about via manual use.

It was a difficult decision to make, but the last thing we want is someone to use the system and then incur breakage. For me that is the event I want most to avoid. And with that assurance, the dentist is comfortable working the instruments with vigor against the full extensions of the usually broader bucco-lingual canals. If we can do this, then we enlarge the canal space in line with the original anatomy in both planes and along length.

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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby chuchro on Tue May 05, 2015 3:18 pm

Hello

Is NSK TEQ-Y contra angle head, with 4:1 reduction body suitable for tango-endo?
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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby admin on Thu May 07, 2015 10:20 am

In review of the information on the NSK website, EDS would not recommend this handpiece. EDS has not tested it with Tango-Endo instruments and it seems to have a larger arch of motion which may cause instrument separation. As always, we recommend using the Tango-Endo handpiece with Tango-Endo instruments.
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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby chuchro on Thu May 21, 2015 12:09 pm

Thanks. Has the original handpiece have 60 degrees reciprotation like safesiders one?
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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby admin on Fri May 22, 2015 7:50 am

Both handpieces have approxietly the same range of motion.
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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby Dr.Mathew Thomas on Mon May 25, 2015 12:30 pm

Hello Dr.Barry,
Well making it latch type to push button type has it advantage of removing tissue remaining  in the bucco- lingual area of the root canal, and not remaining  centralised  as the rotary push button type.
Or is it due to the head of the push button get damaged easily compared to  Latch type.
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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby BarryMusikant on Tue May 26, 2015 11:41 am

Dr.Mathew Thomas wrote:Hello Dr.Barry,
Well making it latch type to push button type has it advantage of removing tissue remaining  in the bucco- lingual area of the root canal, and not remaining  centralised  as the rotary push button type.
Or is it due to the head of the push button get damaged easily compared to  Latch type.
Tahnkingyou
Dr.Mathew


Dr. Mathew,

Always enjoy hearing from you. The reason we made a latch-type 30-45º reciprocating handpiece is that the Tango instruments have a flute design that is cut into the metal rather than being twisted the way the SafeSiders are. Machined metal is less resistant to torsional stress and we did not want to give the dentist the opportunity to use them manually, possibly rotate them too much and thereby exceed the torsional resistance of the instrument. By having to use them in the reciprocating handpiece, the dentist will limit the range of motion to a very short arc and prevent the generation of excessive torsional stress. We wanted this flute design because, as you stated, it works more aggressively against tissue in the bucco-lingual plane.

Hope you are well and am always looking forward to your comments and questions.

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Re: Tango-Endo

Postby Dr.Mathew Thomas on Tue May 26, 2015 12:54 pm

Hello Dr.Barry,
Well Thnak you so much for the information, one last question on EDS tango usage, do you advice to insert into the 30/04 and 30/02 until it binds in the canal or the working length with the  instrument on the EDS Tango hand piece, or insert it into the root canal space in a working motion(reciprocal).
Please advice me on it.
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